Entrepreneur and record executive Dame Dash who co-founded Roc-A-Fella Records along with Jay-Z and Kareem Burke, has recently sat down with Patrick Bet-David on Valuetainment where the two discussed who’s the greatest rapper of all time.

When Patrick asked Dash to rank Notorious B.I.G., 2Pac, André 3000, Nas and Eminem, here is what he replied: “Biggie and Pac died early, André 3000 does not do shows but he could rap. Nas, what about him? Eminem is white and he can rap really well, he can really rap but he is still white.”

He then continued: “If you were to ask about hip-hop out of 10 white people that came in here, would any of them be specialist if they were from that era? probably not, other than Eminem. If you would ask 10 black people from that era like myself about hip-hop, they would know because in that moment, hip-hop was black sport, created by black people so it’s hard to for a black man to say white man is best at anything that’s supposed to be a black sport. You’re not get that from me. I’m a racist. I don’t call it racist cause racist is when you judging a man for his color. I don’t judge a person because of their color of their skin, I judge them because of the color of the soul. I’m racist in  that way.”

Dame Dash served as Jay-Z’s manager and business partner at Roc-A-Fella Records, and in 1999, he organized a tour for Jay-Z which made $19 million. Their relationship soured as a result of two subsequent events. The first was when Roc-A-Fella Records was purchased by Def Jam Recordings (which had previously only owned half of the company) in 2004, after which Jay-Z agreed to take a job as Def Jam’s president. Then, in late 2005, Jay-Z bought Dash out of his stake in Rocawear… Watch the new interview below: